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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

月如寫道:
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minatheone 寫道:
ANYWAY,.每個人都有自已的信念,但我覺得唔駛用到擲雞蛋呀,追住D議員黎打咁暴力囉!比長毛衰百倍!幾時見過長毛追住馬力黎打,向陳婉閒擲雞蛋呀?每次人地做親節目都嘈住人?
長毛就唔會,佢有一次FORUM利用其口才鬧到田少無聲出!長毛表面好爛仔,其實佢好有修養,睇好多書!

我自己就覺得立法會開會,長毛就鍾意入去搞亂檔,叫口號,一樣係討厭! 維園阿伯讀書少,d行為唔要得,但長毛d行為都唔值得支持!佢讀得書多都仲要咁做,咁咪明知故犯?[/quote]
我知道，長毛有時行動憬香港黎講係激左小小，．．．．．
但長毛相比外國，係非常溫和！

我同班朋友講，如果長毛肯同泛民主派轉向溫和，和解路線，可能有機入立法會，令民主派民望大增！
ｂｕｔ佢有佢ｓｙｔｌｅ！

老公對老婆要做o既係: 由而家開始只係可以錫我一個, 要縱壞我,唔可以話我有人恰我要第一時間出黎撐我,我開心你要戥我開心, 我唔開心你要"tum"我開心,唔準恰我鬧我, 發夢都要諗起我,仲要永遠覺得我最靚 ^O^

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

minatheone
我都好出奇見到有d人真係會唔識appreciate
民主派同埋長毛大班等等好多真係用心出力為香港為港人
做事既人,
人言可畏, 人心莫測 ..
當然"民主. 自由"的口號之下, 唔係個個真心,
亦唔係個個做野十全十美,
相反仲會得罪人多,
但係真係有眼睇回歸之後,
香港真係衰左好多,
唔係單單經濟 (which is affected by many factors),
而係施政 .. 管理 .. 民生 ..
呢幾年真係見盡唔少虛偽乖張既咀臉,
太多表面上保皇既人,
實底不過係依附權貴!

minatheone 寫道:
有次新聞報導,佢地班人攪事完後有人派飯合比佢地食!食蛇宴有佢地份!
而長毛佢d生活費好辛苦籌番黎架!

我真係好想問你地,點解你地咁憎民主派,幫住左派?
當年廿三條立法,係民主派辛辛苦苦幫你地踢走架!
睇下民主黨主席楊森,佢絕食100小時反23,為的係我地呀!

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8-) my store: 書.奶泵.手推車.畫版.bb衫.掛床音樂旋轉.防電磁波腰封;-)recent favourite: 香港人民廣播電台 radio 45

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

Gigeebee 寫道:
minatheone
我都好出奇見到有d人真係會唔識appreciate
民主派同埋長毛大班等等好多真係用心出力為香港為港人
做事既人,
人言可畏, 人心莫測 ..
當然"民主. 自由"的口號之下, 唔係個個真心,
亦唔係個個做野十全十美,
相反仲會得罪人多,
但係真係有眼睇回歸之後,
香港真係衰左好多,
唔係單單經濟 (which is affected by many factors),
而係施政 .. 管理 .. 民生 ..
呢幾年真係見盡唔少虛偽乖張既咀臉,
太多表面上保皇既人,
實底不過係依附權貴!

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minatheone 寫道:
有次新聞報導,佢地班人攪事完後有人派飯合比佢地食!食蛇宴有佢地份!
而長毛佢d生活費好辛苦籌番黎架!

我真係好想問你地,點解你地咁憎民主派,幫住左派?
當年廿三條立法,係民主派辛辛苦苦幫你地踢走架!
睇下民主黨主席楊森,佢絕食100小時反23,為的係我地呀!

[/quote]
嗯，論假心假意，點及得我地的田少同閒姐呀！

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

長毛 will be a hero in history. 我以前都以為佢攪攪震,
後來細心觀察先發覺佢係有識之仕,
係一個very sensible 既人,
佢讀既書分分鐘比你同我都多,
he is just like a warrior
fighting for the poor, the needed and justice.
唔好淨係睇佢激唔激,
而係點解咁激!!
如果你有事
d 高官"銀銀腳"淨係識得講下風涼話,
而個陣有個人走出黎為你堅持為你爭取,
你就唔會淨係識得話佢激 ..

細心留意佢所做.. 所講 ..
he is well educated & a good hearted person
佢做緊我地每個人都應該做既野..
不過我地就走左去番工. 湊仔,
佢就為我地爭取!!

see!

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

I do not appreciate 民主派.....and 左派 either...
"回歸之後,香港真係衰左好多,唔係單單經濟......而係施政 .. 管理 .. 民生 .."

But how do you measure 施政 .. 管理 .. 民生 ??? Finally all these are measured in terms of 經濟. When the Economy is good, people's living is good, policy is good, ...everything is good....
When the economy is bad, people start to suffer and, everyone blame the government, blame the policy, blame the management,.....etc

Nobody think about the reason that lead to result/outcome today. People just blame and blame....

All people in HK have to be responsible for today's HK. Why did our economy be so good in the past ? People work hard in the factory (While HK was still dominated in secondary industry), step hard on the ground and work hard, save money and strengthening ourself.

What's the mentality of the majority HK people nowadays ??? They want to find a short cut path making fast money, they do not satisfy their job (as compared to 20 years ago, people had little complaints even though working in harsh environment), they have a very bright vision of the future yet lack a sense of humour and tolerance. Just take a look at the recent unhealthy speculation on property market and you will see how absent minded they are.

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

月如寫道:
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minatheone 寫道:
我真係好想問你地,點解你地咁憎民主派,幫住左派?

唔鍾意民主派,唔等於係幫住左派架...

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[size=large]Agreed !!!!!!

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

Gigeebee 寫道:
長毛 will be a hero in history. 我以前都以為佢攪攪震,
後來細心觀察先發覺佢係有識之仕,
係一個very sensible 既人,
佢讀既書分分鐘比你同我都多,
he is just like a warrior
fighting for the poor, the needed and justice.
唔好淨係睇佢激唔激,
而係點解咁激!!
如果你有事
d 高官"銀銀腳"淨係識得講下風涼話,
而個陣有個人走出黎為你堅持為你爭取,
你就唔會淨係識得話佢激 ..

細心留意佢所做.. 所講 ..
he is well educated & a good hearted person
佢做緊我地每個人都應該做既野..
不過我地就走左去番工. 湊仔,
佢就為我地爭取!!

see!

[size=xx-large]完全同意~

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

兩害取其輕,要選民賤聯同中聯會,我情願選民主派,起碼,係我地自己揀,今朝睇東方同太陽己知佢地成為抹黑打手,呃津貼仲有蔡素玉前科呀~

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

Hei&Ching,

I totally agree with you! You illustrate so well the problems & causes. Glad to hear that. You know most of us have to work hard for earning our livings. Not much time we can spend for protesting the righteousness & justice and safeguarding the society. Yet there are some guys, very few in fact, fight so hard for us. I feel extremely upset hearing other fellows critising them without a real understanding and appreciation. That's real poor and discouraging.

Thanks for your posting. Typing Chinese is a real challenge for me. Reading yours, guess have to spend quite some time anyway.

:wink:

Hei&Ching 寫道:
不認同.經濟固然是一個問題,但經濟氣候好,其他不好最終亦會拖垮香港.(錢可以解決的並不是什麼問題)

回歸後政府經常挨批,我認為不是全因經濟差,民怨是多方面的,
1. 施政失誤, 死不認錯--8萬5政策既知錯,為何推卸責任?
2. 用人唯親, 官官相護--路祥安,梁錦松,葉劉
3. 漠視法治精神,公眾利益--人大釋法,胡仙,數碼港,沙士,紅灣半島

此外,當年經濟騰飛,除了大氣候好,全民進取外,政府的積極不干預也功勞不少,這正是兩代政府的差異之處,董生就是應干預不干預,不應的偏做.

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dummypimp 寫道:
I do not appreciate 民主派.....and 左派 either...
"回歸之後,香港真係衰左好多,唔係單單經濟......而係施政 .. 管理 .. 民生 .."

But how do you measure 施政 .. 管理 .. 民生 ??? Finally all these are measured in terms of 經濟. When the Economy is good, people's living is good, policy

八九十年經濟好造就了我們這批受九年免費教育的人得知什麼是民主自由及良知,所以現在不管是經濟好經濟壞,我們於政府政策中都不再盲目附和,所以不再昧著良心一力順從.我們和上代的差異在他們努力在求生,我們這代經濟較好可以容許顧及吃飯以外的事,所以中央只求餵飽我們的政策是低估了香港人,才導致今天的局面.

其實我覺得月旦政府及其政策沒有不妥,愛之深,責之切,望其醒悟而有所取,難道只讚不彈,香港又會好嗎?可惜政府忠言逆耳,心態問題不肯改過.民主派人士實在亦只能做到彈劾政府,因為他們被政府拼棄於門外,不在其位又焉能謀策獻策?

我家人2000年前都常為民建聯抱不平,到當年有事求助於議員,他先後和譚耀忠和李卓人何俊仁梁耀忠等接洽,唯譚一聽他們須與政府部門周旋,即叫他們不要搞事,順應政府,這是那門子的議員?那時他才對保皇黨徹底失望,失望的不是因譚不為他們爭取利益,失望的是所謂議員並不盡忠職守.

我承認民主派人士亦有其操守問題,但我認為社會不應因有反對聲音就去壓抑,遲早連bk也只能談風月,我們的社會會有進步嗎?

其實不應因民主派或保皇黨作標籤,是是是非應以良知出發,才能不偏不倚.

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

Gigeebee & Hei&Ching,

I agreed your points. Yet most people fail to realise that the present problems (since 1997) in fact is not "solely" casued by the mis-management of the present govt. The problems were mostly brought by the prveious British Govt in our good old days.

I would rather say the present govt cannot use a pro-active approach to address the issue, and merely use a re-active approach to try to do sth to cure the problem. Yet, in such a dynamic environment, reactive measure is always too late.

We need someone to constructively voice out and pinpoint the mal-practice and unfairness happened in the society. Many people packaged themselves with the so-called "democracy" as their surface to create noise for the sake of benefting the public yet ultimately intend to pave the way for own benefit. This is sad...

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

難得今次少o左d唔理性o既人, 其實政府真係好有問題, 不過回歸前港英政府又點處理交接事務? 不但冇積極為港人作出準備, 而更甚是推出以往一向未有推行的福利政策, 另外簽署不少工程合約, 就以新界西輕鐵為例, 英國早於80's年代時因問題多多的輕鐵而禁止在英本土發展, 如果係咁, 香港為咩有硬食呢d咁高科技產品??? 再者以往有冇記得以鬼佬為首的警務處? 打人屈人使咩交代, 鬼佬比老廉查時又話返牧場睇牛, 呢d係一少點問題... 我唔係完全反對民主派, 好似一位新人張賢登先生, 係一位我好有期望的民主黨成員, 在元朗區議會會議上, 佢的論點好有建設性, 而且係一位用心去工作的議員, 所以我認為選一位立法局議員, 係真係要佢做好本份為先~ 等如教英文老師, 佢唔會同你教如何炒菜, 唔同的老師有唔同的作用, 立法局議員一樣, 佢有佢本身的責任, 所以睇立局網頁內的會議紀錄, 可以了解到呢個人的存在價值, 留意一下, 發表多不等如有用, 有部份議員專修改動議, 咁又扮晒做o左o野~ ... 912只要出來投票, 我們便盡了公民責任!

我們應該感恩神的話語令人清醒

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

涂謹申事件又係一example利用"民主"..."民主"....
以權謀私,
我also唔係完全反對民主派....I only look at the issue.....rather than like many people....when they see the word "民主,民主", they will blindly and 唔理性 to follow regardless of what they actually do and what their intention behind....

These are the common mistake of HK people....that's why some people can use this tricks and 利用"民主" as their shell to 瓜田李下

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

我覺得阿桃問題唔係太大,始終佢未犯法,無錢袋落入去!

我係到奉勸民主派,小心為上!你唔係左派,無阿爺照呀!
講投票.都係比民主派,始終富貴黨同保皇黨會出賣港人利益!

有時動議d細節位都唔係廢ga!
我好多時開會都有好多細微細眼的野要執,果d野都唔係廢!
anyway,全港,我認為有才幹者是a45果4位大狀!

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

Hei&Ching 寫道:
Gigeebee,
的確這兩天做了閒人,偷了食午餐及上班的空檔打了那一點,見笑!

dummypimp,
對不起,可能妳誤解了我的意思,其實我上一篇的舉例針對的是現今的政府,不是港英政府,這已是七年前的人和事,再追溯也有點不公,說起來我頗懷緬當年盛世.(希望不要被人說成港英遺孽)

我所認為他們最大的問題是他們對港人的態度,港英時代我們是二等公民,好的投資,好的政府職位,機會次等,不公平;現在自己人當家作主,反而更不公允,董生在不招標的情況下將數碼港送李氏,不只對其他地產商不公,對香港人更不公,原本可以為庫房開流,他卻為李氏開流(但要貧苦弱者節流),最後傳媒抖出,他們是一夥,時光倒流回到古代官商勾結年代,多令人氣結!沙士事件,多虧傳媒報導,才發現當權者欺瞞港人的可怖!

他們當港人是白痴,要玩弄於股掌!但為何還有人樂於附和,說港人不明民主自由,盲目支持民主派(泛指愛好民主的政見人士),我所認識的親人朋友中大多支持民主派,他們為民主派勝利歡呼,為民主派出錯慨嘆氣憤責怪,希望香港最終變為樂土.我認為大多數香港人不是白痴,尤其是受惠於七八九十年代免費教育的一代,不會盲從附和,如果民主派只是混水摸魚,包裝的民主到時一定站不住腳,遭港人離棄.(涂謹申事件現未有定斷,但若他假公濟私屬實,亦會消失於權力網內,但這是個人操守問題,不應因此而全權否定民主派為港人所作,不應因此而打壓他們,否則以後政府少了爭取民心的競爭者,它又何須再做任何為民之事)

另外妳提到pro-active,re-active的做法,我覺得政府不止是後知後覺,而是它企圖欺瞞港人,才是最可惡!

有民主,才有真正關心民間的政府及議員,不好的自會給人民拉下馬呢!

唉,多言的我...

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dummypimp 寫道:
Gigeebee & Hei&Ching,

I agreed your points. Yet most people fail to realise that the present problems (since 1997) in fact is not "solely" casued by the mis-management of the present govt. The problems were mostly brought by the prveious British Govt in our good old days.

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agree!
咁英國人真係做好!董生真係做得衰!
阿桃單野佢無錢袋入去,唔係大問題!
民主派有d幫唔落]
好似今次配票咁,我粗口差d出!
民主派最好都係果4位大狀!

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Re: Do you Believe 何偉途在東莞嫖妓 ?

以"高於市值的租金"，用公帑租用一個他與幾位民主黨黨友於九七年共同購買後轉贈予民主黨的物業,.....都仲話 "無錢袋落入去" ????

高於市值的租金 = They should not have received such amount of rental income (especially it is our money, taxpayer's money, HK's money)....to repay their own personal debt !!!!....

Put it this way, if the rental rate is a market rate, they should have been putting in extra money from their own pocket to repay the loan !!!.....Now, because the rent they received is 高於市值....they saved a lot of their own money....Isnt it a benefit ?

有時 really thought that people blindly admire the word "民主"...once people are from 民主派, people in HK will trust them ...regardless of what they do ...

minatheone 寫道:
我覺得阿桃問題唔係太大,始終佢未犯法,無錢袋落入去!

我係到奉勸民主派,小心為上!你唔係左派,無阿爺照呀!
講投票.都係比民主派,始終富貴黨同保皇黨會出賣港人利益!

有時動議d細節位都唔係廢ga!
我好多時開會都有好多細微細眼的野要執,果d野都唔係廢!
anyway,全港,我認為有才幹者是a45果4位大狀!

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